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Podcast 69 South is about mystery, true crime, attempting to find the truth in a world full of chaos. We dig deep in to current and past true crime incidents. Reporting what we find to our listeners. We want to become your reliable source for all things relevant, while we live in a society that is truly lost.
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The Daily (Bonus Episode): YSL, Richard Allen, Sarah Boone TRIAL UPDATES
SARAH BOONE UPDATE!!
Could a simple suitcase prank lead to a tragic death? Explore the chilling case of Sarah Boone, a woman whose bizarre actions and courtroom antics captivated the nation. We uncover the details of her boyfriend Jorge Torres's mysterious demise, trapped in a suitcase, and Boone's unsettling behavior before and after the trial. The layers of this case go beyond the shocking video evidence, revealing Boone's unusual quest for a high-profile attorney and her dramatic courtroom demeanor that left many questioning the true nature of justice and accountability.
YSL TRIAL UPDATE!!
Step into the tension-filled courtroom where appearances can be deceiving and evidence mishandling leads to chaos. Discover how a social media blunder unravels a defendant's carefully curated image and the repercussions of the prosecution's failure to disclose Brady evidence. The dynamic between Judge Paige Whitaker and prosecutor Andrea Love keeps the courtroom on its toes, as procedural errors persistently threaten to derail the trial. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the intricate dance of legal protocols and the constant fight to maintain integrity amidst the drama.
DELPHI MURDERS / RICHARD ALLEN UPDATE!!!
Join us as we tackle the controversial and high-profile Delphi murders trial, where Richard Allen stands accused. Despite a confession, unsettling doubts cast a shadow over the proceedings, with eyewitness testimonies contradicting Allen's description and an unspent bullet linking him to the crime. We'll contemplate the impact of harsh prison conditions on Allen and the broader quest for justice for the victims. Engage with our daily updates on 69 South and contribute to our passionate community, eager to dissect these complex legal stories.
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Speaker 2:Welcome everyone to Podcast 69 South, when we test and discuss true crime, cold cases, current events and hot topics, along with our state of society today. This is your trigger warning. Our podcast content is produced for adult listeners, 18 years of age and older. We discuss situations that may be offensive and triggering to some listeners. Sit back, relax and enjoy. Welcome everybody to 69 South. We hope you're having a good day. I am your host, Chop, and with me is my beautiful co-host, Julie.
Speaker 2:Hello everybody we are starting a new segment of 69 South. It's going to be called the Daily. We really enjoy going through these court cases that are hot right now and we're just going to give you updates and commentary on the cases that we are following.
Speaker 3:And we have a lot of cases that we follow.
Speaker 2:First off, we want to talk about Sarah Boone. This case was just decided yesterday.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure if it was yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 2:But this is the case of a woman and her boyfriend, who was 102 pounds and just a.
Speaker 3:He was like 5'2 and weighed 103 pounds.
Speaker 2:Barely bigger than our 10-year-old.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And they were getting drunk and they had had a history of fighting and drinking and acting stupid. Well, I guess he had a history of physically, allegedly physically and verbally abusing this woman. So they were drinking.
Speaker 3:Playing hide and seek.
Speaker 2:Playing hide and seek and somehow she talked this small man into a suitcase.
Speaker 3:Getting in a suitcase.
Speaker 2:Getting in a suitcase. Yeah, and he zipped himself up in the suitcase.
Speaker 3:Didn't she zip him up in it?
Speaker 2:Well, I know that at one point in the trial she said that she could see his two fingers sticking out, so she thought that he was able to get in and out of it. Before she went upstairs and went to sleep she said but really she passed out.
Speaker 3:I can't believe she did that. I can't believe the video that they showed in court.
Speaker 2:I mean no crime on anybody is really funny, but there is a little bit of you got to find humor in something. Find some humor in everything. The thing about this is she called the police when she woke up and she unzipped her boyfriend out of the suitcase and realized he was purple and not breathing. Well, she went to the police department to get interviewed. And guess what? They looked at her phone and found out.
Speaker 3:That she had recorded the previous evening of him being in this suitcase and her taunting him. And he's like Sarah, baby Sarah.
Speaker 2:Let's play that clip real quick, sarah, let me out. Yeah.
Speaker 4:For everything you've done to me, for everything you've done to me, for everything you've done to me.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, fuck you. Stupid, stupid, terrible. That's my name, don't worry about it. Terrible, I can't fucking believe this. Yeah, that's when you really shook me terrible terrible terrible. That's on you, that's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you, that's on you, that's on you, that's on you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you.
Speaker 3:That's on you that's on you that.
Speaker 1:I want to get video for it extra because, I got this. Terrible, terrible, terrible. That's what I feel like when you jingle me, sarah. I can't breathe. Baby. Oh, that's what I feel like when you're chewing on me, sarah. Fuck you, please.
Speaker 4:Sarah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You should probably shut the fuck up. I know, and folks.
Speaker 2:That was about the end of Mr Jorge Torres. I don't know if I just got a sick sense of humor, man. I mean, nothing's funny about you know some guy getting suffocated to death in a suitcase. It just what kind of tickles me is. You can hear, you can hear giggling in the background and when he's like Sarah and she's like, that's what it feels like when you choke me, that's what it feels like when you cheat on me, fuck you.
Speaker 3:I think it's funny, because at that point I don't think she was intending to kill him. But if she would have let him out of the suitcase, you know, right then.
Speaker 2:He probably would have whooped her fucking ass. He probably would have.
Speaker 3:But I mean, it's not funny at all, but I just can't believe that she did that.
Speaker 2:Well, she did do it. And 47-year-old Sarah Boone. She was offered a plea deal of 15 years and she had spent nearly five years at trial. She had went through nine different attorneys. She had actually put out a letter, after going through so many attorneys, to advertise for an attorney. Here's that letter.
Speaker 3:So the judge was like I'm not giving you any more attorneys. You've done went through eight of them, you're refusing counsel. So she wrote this flyer and sent it to the judge. And I guess the judge put it out online or in the newspaper and she got an attorney to reply to her. And here's what her flyer said Inmate seeks attorney.
Speaker 3:Looking for a prosperous challenge, ready for your close-up on national television. Are you zealous with a side of keen national television? Are you zealous with a side of keen? Show the world who you are with your original creativity, extraordinary expertise, confident ingenuity. And then it says qualifications must include being trustworthy, honest, passion-driven, open-minded, exceptional problem-solving skills, client inclusion at all times, team-oriented collaboration, extremely efficient in listening, communicating understanding, extremely efficient in listening, communicating understanding. You must have a dedication to success, possess a winning mindset, a capability of excellence in representation and be committed to maintaining faith in your client and care, with the ability to think differently and overcome all circumstances. And then, at the bottom, it has epic opportunity awaits. And then it said Sarah Boone, and then her, I guess her orange County corrections number. And then it says invest. Invest in the oppressed, believe. Can you imagine I mean. And then it says invest in the oppressed believe.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine? I mean all the first attorneys and the judges. I bet they were just going nuts. I wonder what she did for a living. She'd have been a good lady to write you know what ads for people that was needing employees. That was pretty damn good really.
Speaker 3:And she got an attorney to represent her for free.
Speaker 2:Somebody, sure as hell, signed up for it. I mean she didn't have much defense whatsoever. I mean she literally admitted to beating him with a ball bat about his hands and his head when he was trying to escape with the holes that she left for his fingers. For the zipper it took the jury only 90 minutes to decide. Fingers for the zipper it took the jury only 90 minutes to decide. And the minimum she could get out of this is 22 years and the max is life without the possibility of parole. If she'd have took that plea bargain I assume 15 do 7 1⁄2, she would have been out within the next 2 1⁄2 years 2 1⁄2 years is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:yeah, with good behavior, which I'm sure she was a model prisoner. I mean the way she wrote that was pretty decent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was really good and it got her an attorney to jump on board and you know she really what's the word I'm looking for Was like oh, this is a national case, it's nationally televised. This is like free advertisement for you.
Speaker 2:Well, she wasn't bullshitting. I mean, she got our attention and everybody else's attention.
Speaker 3:She got the world's attention.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she sure got some attention. But anyway, moving on sentencing, for that is coming up shortly here, so we will give you an update on that and see what she's really going to get. But now we're going to move on to the YSL trial. Coming out of Atlanta, and unless you've been in Iraq or don't follow anything, this has been a pretty hot case for a while now.
Speaker 3:So the trial started in January of oh, I'm sorry, it started in November of last year. So this trial has been going on for right at a year now.
Speaker 2:A trial that has taken a year and they um it took them 10 months to decide the jury in this case.
Speaker 3:It's a big rico case down in georgia with ysl, young slum. What is it slime life?
Speaker 2:yeah, I know one of the guys on the stand said it was young, stoner life young, street life young. He had all kinds of explanations for it, but basically he was just trying to make it like that it wasn't a specific gang.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and YSL started as a record label for this guy named Young Thug.
Speaker 3:Young Thug for this guy named Young Thug Young Thug and a whole bunch of people follow him around that area because he blew up real big in music and what I think it is is you know, he's popular, he's got money and all these people follow him. You know he could kind of be looked at like an influencer plus a big musician and these people started following him. But other people that he knew were out there committing crimes and fighting with other gangs. And then people said the DA said that they're having all these shootouts and a gang war but the only people on trial is the YSL gang corporation, whatever you want to call it. I mean I've watched this trial for a few weeks. I mean I've watched this trial for a few weeks and I haven't seen any evidence that Would incriminate Jeffrey Williams.
Speaker 2:Now, good old Fannie Willis. All this, the prosecution team, is under Fannie Willis. I'm sure you guys have heard of Fannie Willis. She was the one that wore the dress backwards and it had something to do with the Trump.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she brought up the RICO charges on President Trump and then she brought up this Rico case. I think Trump's trial had 18 co-defendants and then this one had like 28 plus.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of good rappers that come out of Atlanta. I mean I listen to everything.
Speaker 3:Jermaine Dupri.
Speaker 2:I listen to everything music-wise. I like to say I like everything from here's a Quarter to 50 Cent, and I made that shit up. It's pretty damn good. You know, I looked up on my Apple Music deal and I tried to listen to some of his music man. I don't know if it's just New Wave or if it's Atlanta-style rap, but I wasn't really too into it, or if it's Atlanta-style rap, but I wasn't really too into it.
Speaker 3:I guess he started music back in 2013, 14. I never knew who he was before this trial.
Speaker 2:He's got good beats though good music, but this trial has been a joke. There's one guy that's involved in it. His name's Woody. We watched quite a bit of his testimony. It was very comical.
Speaker 3:What you mean.
Speaker 2:What you mean, what you mean, what you mean and everything. When they asked him a question. I don't recall, I don't recall, I don't recall. The prosecution has just made a joke out of the Atlanta judicial system. In my opinion, it's just been a circus. One of the, and it's just been a circus.
Speaker 3:One of the defense attorneys, brian Steele, was actually arrested for speaking his mind. Judge Glanville put him in contempt of court because he wouldn't tell some information that he had learned, because they had some secret meeting with the state and you know that's not allowed during the middle of trial and they tried to coerce a witness to testify when he wanted to plead the Fifth Amendment and there's been prosecution misconduct. You know, when they're stating laws to the new judge because the old judge got kicked off the case, they are misrepresenting what the laws mean and the judge has caught them several times lying and being dishonest and misleading.
Speaker 2:Oh, Young Thug must have some money, because Brian Steele probably ain't a cheap lawyer. He's one of the top defense attorneys that I've heard of. And the thing is, if you watch this trial, if you watch any portion of this trial, and then you go back and watch portions of the Karen Reed trial or any case that's been the Murdaugh trial, everything seems to be so professional in a courtroom, but this courtroom is just. It's a joke.
Speaker 3:A three-ring circus. I can't even wrap my mind around it.
Speaker 2:You can't say one thing about Young Thug man. He's got a hell of a wardrobe. I bet I've seen a quarter million dollars worth of outfits come through that courtroom. It's every single day. Every week a different hairdo, every day a different outfit. I think they even tried to tell they had to make these guys tone down the outfits. We can't just host a thousand new outfits for you guys every day their closet wasn't big enough. Yeah, the day their closet wasn't big enough. Yeah, the jail's closet wasn't big enough. I could only imagine.
Speaker 3:But yeah, he does look pretty spiffy in there you know why they have them come in dressed in like professional wear is because the jury is not supposed to know whether or not, if they are incarcerated or not. So that's why they have to dress up for court, even though most of them no, I think all of them all the defendants in this trial are incarcerated right now, and they have been for a few years. But the jury's not supposed to know that.
Speaker 2:And that's a big thing, because that's why this trial has been on, basically pause for a couple of days, because one of the guys that was testifying let it slip a couple of times. I think it was a post through X or something that said free Quay, free quay, yeah, and they're. And they schooled him about not to say stuff like that, because it's basically let the jury know, or putting the mindset to the jury, that these guys are criminals already.
Speaker 3:They did that. But what they did is they had something redacted on a screen. Well, the district attorney handed him a piece of paper and when she handed him the piece of paper he started reading off it. Well, whatever he said was not redacted. When he said free quay, it wasn't redacted on that piece of paper, even though it was on the screen. But that was her fault for handing him a piece of paper that had information on there that it shouldn't have been. So it wasn't really his fault, because she even said is there a hashtag? And then he was like free quay. And she was like freak way, and she was like like oh my God. And then one of the lawyers motioned for a mistrial. I think there've been like 80 to 90 motions for mistrial. It's every day.
Speaker 2:It's almost every day you see them motion for a mistrial, but the prosecution just seems like they're making this case up literally day by day. There's days that they don't have witnesses ready. There's days that they really don't have shit to do.
Speaker 3:And they got sent to retraining on Brady evidence.
Speaker 2:The prosecution did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you know how you have to turn things over to the defense, even if it's going to help them. The Brady law.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Well, they weren't turning stuff over and the judge made them go to training. The whole district attorney side made them go to training In the middle of this trial for that, to make them learn about that.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I mean, the judge got in the prosecutor's ass. One day let's play that clip. And, like Julie said, this is Paige Whitaker. She is the second judge that's presided over this case and Adrian Love is the main prosecutor that's in the courtroom all the time. Well, this is Paige Whitaker giving Andrea Love a piece of her mind.
Speaker 4:You represented at the bench that none of this, that being the writing on the right side of the picture, which we're all squinting at because it's tiny on the piece of paper, which we're all squinting at because it's tiny on the piece of paper. And so I am relying upon you to actually be honest with the court and opposing counsel so that we can deal appropriately with the evidentiary issue. Was any of it being offered for its truth? You drew the witness's attention to the phone number and tried to have the witness testify to whose phone number it was. If that is not offered for the truth, what is it?
Speaker 1:Your Honor. It explains what steps he next took. It wasn't that he sat there and took this phone number and said, okay, this is Justin Cobb's phone number. He went and sought records based on what he saw on this social media post.
Speaker 4:So it's not, this post can't prove anything, but I do expect that the witness will testify based on what he saw, regardless, because this is legitimate why can't you just add the bench when you know that the reason you're offering it is for the phone number, and then to ask the witness other questions about what he did based on that phone number and seeing that phone number say to everybody, so that we know what we're dealing with. You know it's this phone number. Now I'm going to ask him xyz about the phone number and then we'll know what we're dealing because my understanding that what was being objected to was not the phone number, was the comments.
Speaker 1:That was the comment, was the words your honor. And again, this piece of evidence does not prove anything as anybody would be able to say. But when he saw this on Justin Cobb's page, or a picture of Justin Cobb next to what he believed to be Justin Cobb's handle, he sought additional information. The entire process. I'm sorry, what? I mean, that is included within what you're now calling comments, all of them just being, and I asked at the bench what comments they were asserting was hearsay, your Honor.
Speaker 4:I literally asked at the bench is any of this being offered for its truth?
Speaker 1:And your Honor, it's being offered to explain DDA Sprinkle's actions that he took. Explain DDA Sprinkles actions that he took. Next, your Honor, these records have been collected as part of what he did in this investigation. He was asked on cross-examination did he take particular steps to corroborate what was given to him in certain interviews? That was the preceding question before I asked him about this particular post. So the state intended and intends to introduce the records that DDA Sprinkle produced or obtained after seeing this post. This post can't suffice to prove that that is Justin Cobb's number. This post only explains why DDA Sprinkle got the number and why it was significant to him in this investigation where his steps and actions are being questioned.
Speaker 5:But you know, judge, we don't get there. I hear what the state's saying and it's disingenuous because we don't get to the second step, that they're talking about what records he procured and why he did what he did. Unless we go through the hearsay statement that's contained in the portion that I objected to, and the court is accurate. I was there and I asked for everything that was on the right side of the verb is to be. I said that that was hearsay. The state said it was not. It clearly is, because to ask him that specific question I mean, listen, none of us are obtuse, it is. It is what it is. I think that the state was disingenuous about it States being very slippery in regards to their response to the court's questions. I think it's willful and I think a mistrial is appropriate. It's willful and I think a mistrial is appropriate.
Speaker 4:I can't figure out what it is, if it's disingenuous, if it is, that I mean. I don't want to malign the prosecutor standing in front of me right now, so I'm not going to say the possible things that it could be, but it is baffling to me that somebody with the number of years of experience that you have, time after time after time, continues to seemingly purposefully hide the ball to the extent you possibly can, for as long as you possibly can, and I really don't want to believe that it is purposeful. But honestly, after a certain number of times you start to wonder how it could be anything but that, unless it is just that you are so unorganized that you are throwing this case together as you try it. And I am sorry to say that, but this case is being made much more difficult for everybody because of the haphazard way in which it is being presented.
Speaker 2:Boy. There it is. I mean, she gave it to her. This is a judge talking to a head prosecutor in the middle of a huge trial.
Speaker 3:In front of everybody.
Speaker 2:It's being televised. Everybody in Atlanta is watching this shit too. I mean, it's just basically the judge is saying either you're purposely trying to fuck this case up or you're just too damn stupid to be a prosecutor without saying that. I mean she said it the nicest possible way.
Speaker 3:They have been so sneaky and conniving they are breaking all kinds of laws, trying to uphold justice for their selves. They just I think a lot of it's political too with Fannie Willis.
Speaker 2:Well, it just about has to be something political and, as you mentioned one time when we were watching this, I bet Fannie Willis has tried to get all of these guys that are involved in the Rico case on small shit here and there and they got the money to pay good lawyers like Brian Steele and they probably got out of a bunch of shit before. So they're just trying their best to get payback on them, to get them all once and for all. They're probably jealous because they're rich as hell and they're balling out.
Speaker 3:You know what I find is so crazy. What she's done is a lot of these okay, most of them, except for Jeffrey Williams, young thug. He don't have any felonies, he's never had a felony. He might have been in jail but I don't think he's ever been convicted of a felony. But all the other defendants you know some's been convicted of murder, robbery. The other defendants, you know some's been convicted of murder, robbery. I mean it's a plethora of crimes across a plethora of people. Not that they were committing these crimes together as an organization to further it, but they were all just committing crimes individually and a lot of them have been arrested and locked up and served their time for those crimes. But here they are again using these crimes for proof of the rico crime, so kind of double jeopardy in a way, but slapping rico on of it. So it's a new charge.
Speaker 3:And for those who don't know what RICO stands for so the RICO Act is Racketeer, influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.
Speaker 2:I knew it had something to do with organized crime, but to be honest, I wasn't exactly sure what it stood for either.
Speaker 3:A lot of this is gang crime. I don't think it's necessarily organized crime. I don't think they're all doing it as this gang YSL to further that necessarily. I think they all follow the YSL trend or lifestyle or whatever it is, but I don't think the crimes committed are for that. I think the people are just dumbasses and out committing crimes, and some of them have been pretty bad crimes. But Fannie Willis is trying to smack them all together and she's trying to pin it on one person and that's the big music artist, uh, young thug trying to say that he's the head of the snake, he's the big fish and all he's really ever done is help people out whenever they needed it, gave him a record deal, put him on and right, and then it's not like the first time this shit's happened.
Speaker 2:I mean, you look at Master P and his family. If they was going to do like a Rico thing, they probably could have got them along the way with a gang of shit. Yeah Well, Master P's in Louisiana and this is all in but Seabird is his brother and-.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and she's like oh, she's taking their lyrics of their songs and using it against them in the court of law. They're saying oh well, this crime happened and you rapped about this, so obviously that's a confession.
Speaker 2:Well, damn near every rapper in the game should be on trial for charges, if that's the way to put it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, gangster rap.
Speaker 2:They're all talking about smashing bitches and killing people for their dope spot shit it's wild, it's wild out there there is a lot to this case and we're gonna keep checking this in and out for you on the daily um. Right now we want to get to the main trial that we've been following at the moment, and that is the Richard Allen trial. It's about the Delphi murders.
Speaker 3:Now the Delphi murdersolved until a file clerk came across Richard Allen's interview and she decided to forward that to the detectives on the case. I think the prosecution had changed from the time that it had happened to the time that this file clerk found this interview and I don't know what was suspicious about it, but in her mind something was suspicious about it. Detectives, they had a single unspent bullet from the crime scene and they said that that matches a gun that Richard Allen had, and that is how they arrested him. Now the victims in this case were 14-year-old best friends, abby Williams and Libby German. They had went to the Monom Bridge for a walk or to hang out and they went missing. Her dad showed up to pick the girls up and they weren't there.
Speaker 2:No, they weren't. Sadly, they were found deceased. They had both been murdered and sadly, they were found deceased. They had both been murdered. Now, this has been a really big case, especially around our area because we're based out of Indiana as well and I'm sure it's been a big case throughout the nation. It is the case where they call the suspect the bridge guy because one of the girls had recorded, actually took a couple of pictures of a guy walking on a bridge. The guy looks like he has a blue jacket on blue jeans and there's also an audio recording of somebody saying down the hill, down the hill. This trial is 10 days in. It seems to be moving pretty fast. His trial is 10 days in. It seems to be moving pretty fast.
Speaker 3:But from the beginning of this case, I have sincerely had my doubts about Richard Allen being guilty of this crime. I don't think that he is guilty at all and I don't think that he'll ever get his life back, and I don't think that Abby and Libby's families are going to get justice. And I just want to talk real quick about some things that we learned throughout this trial so far. Now Libby took a photo of Abby on the bridge and posted it to Snapchat that day. Libby crossed the bridge first, looked back and saw a man following abby, so she decided to record and I think I believe that's where they got the um videos on her phone. The man told them now this is what the prosecution is saying the man told them to go down the hill. The girls complied and the video cut off.
Speaker 3:The search for the girls was suspended at approximately 2 am and resumed at 6 am. Libby was found nude, covered in blood. Her throat was cut in several places. There was blood on the ground and on the nearby tree. Abby was wearing her own underwear and shoes, but no socks and libby's shirt and jeans. So the girls were like reed one was naked and one was dressed in some of the other's clothes says. The rest of the girls clothes were found in deer creek but for one shoe and libby's phone, which were found under abby, there was an unspent 40 caliber winchester bullet between the two girls. They they took libby's phone, uh, for processing and they recovered the photos and videos of of the bridge guy. Now witnesses came forward and so far the three eyewitnesses have all said that the guy that they seen did not look like Richard Allen.
Speaker 2:First of all, richard Allen was not on the police's radar at all. I think his name got going into the case in the investigation is he had said that he was walking on that trail that day. He wanted to go just look at nature and to his testimony or his interview, he said he wanted to watch the fish in the creek. Now, him and his wife was later watching a newscast and they saw the murders of the two girls. And Richard Allen had told his wife, hey, I was out there that day walking across, walking around there, and she said, well, maybe you should go tell the sheriff. So Richard Allen had told his wife, hey, I was out there that day walking across, walking around there, and she said, well, maybe you should go tell the sheriff. So Richard Allen went down there and was like, hey, I was down there that day and if you know, pick my brain and I'll tell you everything that I saw or anything. So he was actually trying to help him out to begin with.
Speaker 3:That's what happened and for some odd reason, I really don't see how it all got turned around. And you know, what kills me is even the eyewitnesses are saying that this guy was 5'10 and looked to be in his 20s or his 30s, and Richard Allen was in his 40s and he's short, he's 5'4".
Speaker 2:He's a serviceman. He did time protecting our country and the Army and the National Guard. I believe he was a manager at CVS. Literally no criminal record at all. They owned a nice brick home. They had nice vehicles Just a seemingly average Joe.
Speaker 3:What makes this case so messed up is that we sit here and say that we don't think he did it. But for people who haven't followed this trial, they don't know that he's confessed to killing these girls.
Speaker 2:He has confessed. But they also moved him to a really nasty prison here in Indiana instead of housing him at the county jail where the crime happened at, and you could just imagine how he's been treated there. Now if, by all means, if he is guilty of this crime, then he deserves every bit of everything everybody's ever gave him. But I think we all know how they treat child molesters and child murderers and rapists in prison. I mean, even the guards were mistreating this man who knows the lengths of the torture that he went through. So I don't really personally believe. I haven't personally heard the confessions that he talked about, but I think the dude if you look at pictures of him before incarceration, I mean the dude has dwindled away to nothing and he's lost literally everything he has. His wife basically had to go into hiding, sold everything they had.
Speaker 3:They've lost completely everything from him going up there to try to help, in my view. But he has confessed and they are going to allow these confessions to come out in court and let the jury decide on what they think. But they also had him on medication. He was losing his mind, going crazy, and they had the police coming in there. They had the guards coming in there and what was weird is that he only made these confessions when he was in Westville Correctional Facility. At any of the other places he was at, he never confessed to anything. It's just at this one correctional facility that his lawyers begged to get him moved out of and they wouldn't do it. That judge would not move him. But there's been evidence lost in this case. Key witness interviews are gone forever and they didn't even write down the names of the people they interview.
Speaker 2:We've been following this trial every day and you know they said that it was a super, super bloody crime scene, which is heinous in itself. But they tested his jacket he wore that day, his boots that he wore that day. Granted, it's been five years between the crime and the testing, but they have not found any DNA of these girls in his car that he drove, any of his clothes, his home. They went through everything with a fine, fine tooth comb now speaking of dna.
Speaker 3:Um, as of like a week ago, law enforcement was still scrambling because there was a hair found in abby's hand. It was wrapped around her fingers and had a a root on it. Dna was extracted from it. The analysis testified that the hair might be from a relative of Libby. How would it be wrapped around her finger when they're all out there? It's not Libby's hair, it's not Abby's hair, it's a female hair, it's not. Richard Allen's hair.
Speaker 2:Might be, though when do they get the might be from?
Speaker 3:Seven years later. Why is that not tested? And they have somebody in custody that might be seven years later. Why is that not tested? And they have somebody in custody. Why would they not have that dna hair tested?
Speaker 2:all this should have been took care of immediately. I mean, this should have been investigated, searched. It's almost like nowadays, these prosecutors um, not all of you, but a lot of you they get the idea that somebody's guilty and they run with that, no matter what it entails. And a prosecutor should be wanting to find the truth, no matter what. It shouldn't be sides, and that's the way I feel like this is gone since day one of this.
Speaker 3:That puts the public at a bigger risk if they're not looking for the truth, because I feel like there's still a killer out there who did this to these girls who has got away with it. And wasn't there another Keegan Klein guy who was talking to these girls on the Snapchat under some fake Anthony Schott's?
Speaker 2:name? Absolutely there was. And they searched that guy's house and his electronics and they found all kinds of child porn. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Now you would think if Richard Allen is this weird, corrupt, just sick individual that would do this to these two girls, you would think they would find porn on his phone or child porn or bad text messages or anything like that. There is absolutely nothing. They went through every device this man had and they have found absolutely nothing. Just like he's a normal human being and not even a bad one. You know, there's not one bad thing that has come out on his electronics at all.
Speaker 2:The same thing about the DNA, as they didn't find any of the crime victim's DNA on any one of Richard Allen's possessions home vehicle. They didn't find any of Richard Allen's DNA on either one of the crime victims. Literally the only evidence they have is the confessions, which I believe are false, which is just my opinion. And they have an unspent 40 caliber shell casing which the investigator says has the ejection marks from Richard Allen's pistol. Now there's so much more to get into this case and we're going to be following every one of these cases and any important cases daily, and this is going to be the 69 South daily podcast. We are still going to do our true crime series weekly, but we're going to keep the 69 South daily podcast. We are still going to do our true crime series weekly, but we're going to keep you in the loop on all these interesting court cases daily.
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