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Podcast 69 South is about mystery, true crime, attempting to find the truth in a world full of chaos. We dig deep in to current and past true crime incidents. Reporting what we find to our listeners. We want to become your reliable source for all things relevant, while we live in a society that is truly lost.
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The Daily Episode 2: (BONUS) Delphi Murders, Walmart Bakery Murder, Disgraced Indiana Sherriff, and Pigeon Forge Eminent Domain Lawsuit
What if the man on trial for the infamous Delphi murders is not who we think he is? We kick off our latest episode with a provocative exploration of Richard Allen's trial, where we scrutinize his perplexing behavior in prison and question the fairness of his treatment. With insights from courtroom correspondent Andrea Burkhart and a critical eye on Nancy Grace's polarizing commentary, we examine whether transparency in high-profile cases is more crucial than ever. As we navigate these troubling waters, we also shine a light on the unsettling underbelly of Indiana law enforcement, from the crumbling reputation of Sheriff Jamie Noel amid allegations of theft and tax evasion to the complex dynamics of the YSL trial.
But the intrigue doesn't stop there. Our journey takes a dramatic turn to a tragic mystery in a Walmart bakery, where a young employee's death raises alarming questions about workplace safety. And as we venture into Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, we uncover a property scandal that reeks of political corruption, with accusations against Mayor David Weir and a beleaguered property owner's fight for justice. This episode is packed with stories that reveal the darker side of justice and power, offering listeners a chance to ponder the implications of these real-world dramas. Join us as we question, challenge, and unpack the multifaceted layers of these compelling cases.
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Disclaimer: All defendants are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law. All facts are alleged until a conviction!
Welcome everyone to podcast 69 south, where we test and discuss true crime, cold cases, current events and hot topics, along with our state of society today. This is your trigger warning. Our podcast content is produced for adult listeners, 18 years of age and older. We discuss situations that may be offensive and triggering to some listeners. Sit back, relax and enjoy. Welcome everybody to the Daily on 69 South podcast. I'm your host today, Chop, and with me is my always beautiful co-host, Julie.
Speaker 1:Hello everybody.
Speaker 2:Today we're going to recap on what happened in the Delphi murders case against Richard Allen, and we're going to talk a little bit about our feelings and thoughts about his guilt or innocence and a little bit about Nancy Grace's opinion too.
Speaker 1:I hate her.
Speaker 2:I kind of do too, really.
Speaker 1:Her mouth, and you know what allegedly I mean. In my own opinion, I think that bitch is drunk. Every night she's on tv because her eyes are so bloodshot. I swear I'm not lying y'all come across nancy grace. I think she's got like a, a crime show at night or that's on TV or YouTube or something. But go and just I know you can't listen to her that long maybe like two seconds Cause her mouth just makes you want to smack the hell out of her.
Speaker 2:She does look fucked up but she looks drunk.
Speaker 1:She looks trashed night in her mind. You know what she did one time. She um night in her mind. You know what she did one time. She um a mother had gotten an accident or something with her baby or I think they were sleeping together and she rolled over on her baby and she made this. She like scolded or scorned her online and everything and just trashed this poor woman Like losing her kid. Wasn't enough that this woman committed suicide because of Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2:That's fucked up. You know some of her opinions about cases I agree with, like the Ellen Greenberg case. I mean she's spot on with that dude. It's like, honestly, she thinks everybody's guilty as fuck.
Speaker 1:I was getting ready to say the same thing.
Speaker 2:That's literally what she thinks I mean, she dogged the fuck out of Alex Murdaugh, I mean, and she dogged the fuck out of Richard Allen and I don't know man, there's just a lot of shit. When we thoroughly go through these cases that to me I see a lot of shit that makes me think they're innocent. But enough about her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, one more thing she was like, since we're going to do the Richard Allen trial out day to day, I seen her she come out of the courtroom and jumped on air and was like the things I seen in this courtroom today. He is not insane. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 2:The dude was eating his own shit, man.
Speaker 1:He had a mental psychotic break. I mean, what would you do if he was confined in a prison for 13 months for committing murder on two girls?
Speaker 2:I'd be doing some weird shit, but I don't think I'd be eating my own poop.
Speaker 1:No, that's kind of fucked up.
Speaker 2:But I mean, you don't go from being a manager at CVS to eating your own shit. They tortured the fuck out of this dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in trial today they were talking about inmate companions, so I guess he had to have a dude an inmate, not a worker of the prison that he had to have an inmate sit outside his cell and make sure he didn't commit suicide. Does that make any sense to you?
Speaker 2:No, I bet they was taunting the fuck out of him. I mean, you're going to put another-.
Speaker 1:Oh they were calling him a baby killer and-.
Speaker 2:A bitch ass dude.
Speaker 1:Saying that he should kill himself.
Speaker 2:They're probably spitting in his food and shit. I mean, I watch a lot of prison shows and I've known a lot of people that's been in prison and you don't want to be a child killer or a rapist in there because they'll just fuck you up.
Speaker 1:And by all means people who are guilty of raping children and hurting children and murdering. They should get the worst of anything in my book and a real strong question of if they did it or not. I mean, I just don't see this man turning from. How old is he 50 now? Was he 50?
Speaker 2:He was 47, I believe, when they charged him.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't see a 47-year-old man with a bad heart that's a manager at CBS who's never been in any kind of trouble in his life, just going to commit committing murders. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you what I'll be the first person in the world to get on our episode if they find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And you know, yada, yada, yada. But as of this moment, my opinion is I really don't think the dude did it.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people who are like, you know, I kind of was convinced because they said they had this evidence and his confessions. I was completely convinced he did it. But a lot of people are really turning the page on that and they're like, oh, I'm not so convinced now that the trial started. There's this lady on X that I follow and her name is Andrea Burkhart and yesterday she had posted. Today has been a turning point for me in the fight to reveal to the world what horror is unfolding in the Carroll County Circuit Court in the trial of Richard Allen. I have never been more convinced of how important it is for this case to be seen and witnessed. There's legal work I need to finish so I might be absent for a bit while I work on taking the fight for transparency to the next level and I believe that's a media person that's in the courtroom taking notes so she can report back to us what's happening every day.
Speaker 2:Boy if I didn't have to go out here and swing a hammer every day, I swear I'd be up here in Delphi camping out. I want to go see that shit. I wish it was televised so bad.
Speaker 1:It should have been televised Also.
Speaker 2:a person fell asleep in the courtroom the other day One of the girl's relatives, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:I believe it was one of Libby's relatives and at the end of the day Judge Gold scolded people for sleeping in the courtroom and she said I don't conduct court in your bedroom. I would appreciate you not sleeping in my courtroom. Court is recessed for lunch.
Speaker 2:It makes you wonder. I mean, this is one of the girls' family members that reportedly fell asleep in the courtroom. Are they that bored with the shit? I mean, that's that's going on at trial. I wonder what they're thinking about Richard Allen.
Speaker 1:Today they had a psychologist from the Westville correctional facility testifying today, and this was the lady that he seen and talked to, and I guess that he confessed to her that he murdered the girls and this was on May 3rd of 2023, and he said that he did something with the gun and then he was going to take the girls and sexually assault them, but a van scared him.
Speaker 2:A van. Where in the hell was a van at? They was way down in a holler in Deer Creek.
Speaker 1:That's what I don't know. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:That makes no sense at all.
Speaker 1:So where was the van at? That scared him. And if he was too scared to sexually assault them, he's going to murder them and then clean up the crime scene and then undress one and then dress the other and then throw sticks all over their body.
Speaker 2:That shit's got me captivated.
Speaker 1:I believe it was already in discovery and that's how he already knew, because they had brought him in to question him and they could have told him that the sticks were covering the body and they could have said anything which he don't know. I think he really confessed under duress. Plus didn't they have him on halidol?
Speaker 2:They had him on all kinds of shit, all kinds of psychotic drugs.
Speaker 1:What does that do?
Speaker 2:It's basically given to people that have a chemical imbalance in their brain and what it does is it's supposed to fix a chemical imbalance, but it also it'll drag you down. I mean it'll it'll make you tired.
Speaker 1:AF. Basically, what does it do to people who don't have a chemical imbalance and they give it to them.
Speaker 2:Shit, I don't know. I really don't want to find out.
Speaker 1:So Judge Gall denied the defense the opportunity to present the alternate theory about the Odinism in the way the sticks were placed on the girls' body. I guess it references some type of Odinist religion.
Speaker 2:It's like a pagan type of religion or it's like a like a pagan type of cult.
Speaker 1:Well, I seen on Twitter or X I don't know if it's a hundred percent true how Libby's grant Libby Germans. Uh family feels about this, but Libby's Germans grandmother was the one who brought up Brad Holder and his ties to Odinism and told the police about it.
Speaker 2:Basically, when you look up the term Odinism, it is a term for heathenry, a modern pagan religion typically used by those who hold to folkish or race-centric ideologies. Heathenry I wonder if that's like being a heathen, like heathenry.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen a heathen tattoo?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know a dude with a tattoo heathen right on his forehead. I love him, though I'm not so sure. I believe the Odinism thing, though, really, because that's like a group of people, and I think if there was a group of people down there, I really believe that there would have been more eyewitnesses to this group of bloody individuals that just slaughtered these two poor baby girls.
Speaker 1:I don't see why or how sacrificing two young girls would do anything for them.
Speaker 2:I think it's going to come out either that it was other jealous teenagers that lured them down there in some kind of a weird teenage bullshit thing, or it was some fucking weirdo, some weird-ass dude.
Speaker 1:That just happened to be out there that day or that was following them on Snapchat. I think a lot of, I think some of this has related to that Keegan Klein guy who got in trouble with all that child porn stuff.
Speaker 2:I can't lie. He looks mighty suspicious and if you don't know who we're talking about, keegan Klein was a 29-year-old man and he pleaded guilty to 25 charges, including child exploitation, possession of child porn, obstruction of justice, and, according to the court records, police found countless pieces of child porn on his electronics. They found thousands of messages that he was trying to catfish young girls, including Libby and Abby, with a persona of a profile from a young, good looking model type dude named Anthony shots. Now, I mean, this dude was busted talking to these two girls. This dude was busted talking to these two girls. He's got busted with trying to catfish girls, child pornography on his shit, and I just don't understand why they didn't look into him deeper. That's something there is missing. I don't understand that whole ordeal.
Speaker 1:The only way that he could be linked is if he was texting Libby's phone. I don't think Abby had a phone yet, but Libby had a cell phone and they were on Snapchat and you know how dangerous that is for young kids. Snapchat is not a social media app that I will ever let my children have.
Speaker 2:No, and I agree 100%. And, folks, if you have teenage children, man, just be aware and be very vigilant about what your kids are doing on the phones. Anyway, hey, there's so much to get to in that we're going to be taking that day by day and filling you in every day. We want to move on to an Indiana sheriff. Have you guys ever watched 60 Days In? If you have, you've probably seen the first series of this. I like that show, I liked watching it. But the first sheriff in 60 Days In named Jamie Noel. He was just convicted in a big case. He was convicted of theft, money laundering, corrupt business influence, official misconduct and obstruction of justice and tax evasion.
Speaker 1:Did I say 27 charges? Yes, 27 felony charges. And he was using millions of taxpayer dollars from the Utica Volunteer Firefighters Association and New Chapel EMS to buy cars, planes, vacations, clothing and other luxury items. He also paid one of his kids' college tuition and child support.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Now, oh, he also tasked county employees with jobs related to his personal classic car collection.
Speaker 2:This dude had a badass car collection. I mean I would kill for some of these cars, car collections. I mean I would kill for some of these cars. He had 40 plus classic badass cars including two 1970 Plymouth Superbirds. I personally have never even seen a Superbird in person. I've seen a bunch of them on TV. I think I even had a little toy car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a Superbird Hot Wheel, but I never had a real one. He has fucking two Two 1950 or 1959 Corvette, a 1966 and a 1968 Charger. He donated $33,000 to Republican candidates between 20 and 23.
Speaker 1:to Republican candidates between 1920 and 1923. He was also like a. He was a higher Republican official in the state of Indiana. I think he was over like a congressional district in the state. So he was donating all this money to these Republican candidates to help with their campaigns. But before he got arrested like he had the most pristine reputation.
Speaker 2:If you watch 60 Days In, you watch his persona man. You wouldn't imagine that that shit was going on behind closed doors Now. His wife Misty and daughter Casey. They were also charged with theft and tax evasion.
Speaker 1:Soon-to-be ex-wife because he cheated on her and had that baby with another council person. But you know, the only reason that she was mainly charged is because she filed tax returns with him. That's what a lot of her cases is because she filed tax returns with him. But he also gave her a credit card that she was using and she spent 2.8 million dollars from 2018 to 2023 on these fire department credit cards damn sheriff, noel was balling as well as his daughter. He gave her credit cards and she spent like 600 000.
Speaker 1:But I don't necessarily know if they knew that they were fire department funds right right, so they might have a good chance of beating it if they had no idea. You know, if my dad hands me well, if he had handed me, when he was alive, a credit card when I was younger and been like oh here, use this whenever you need it, I wouldn't assume that it was from a business that wasn't his. But anyway, now other people could be facing additional charges the Clark County Councilperson, john Miller, and former Clark County Councilperson, brittany Ferry. They were charged with misconduct of some sort because they voted in favor of funding appropriations for the fire and EMS service. That Jamie was over and they received personal benefits paid by service funds. So that's why they're looking at some time as well. And Jamie he pleaded guilty and he got 12 years in prison.
Speaker 2:Well, you would think pleading guilty man, he would have took a plea and pleaded guilty. Maybe if they dropped the charges on his wife and daughter and shit.
Speaker 1:What do you think made him do that?
Speaker 2:I bet it started out. Maybe he figured out a way to hustle just a little bit at a time and it just grew and grew and grew out of control really.
Speaker 1:Well, he is also in trouble because he took $900,000 out of the jail commissary accounts.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:The inmate commissary accounts he funneled off $900,000.
Speaker 2:It could have started there, but Dudes wasn't getting their noodles, they was getting pissed off getting their noodles.
Speaker 1:They was getting pissed off. So that is the update for Jamie Noel. Since we live in Indiana, I just wanted to cover that. It's not often you hear of an Indiana sheriff being charged in some crazy stuff like that. I think we need to do a deep dive and do an episode into you know, how did he get caught? I don't know those answers to those questions yet, but I would like to know.
Speaker 2:If y'all get a chance, go back and watch that first season of 60 Days In and check old Jamie Noel out and see what you think.
Speaker 1:Right. And then now for the YSL trial update. We had a plea deal today of Quay Marvious Nichols. He got 20 years due seven. He could have went home immediately if he had testified against the other defendants and he said, hell, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2:That ain't thug life, testifying Shit.
Speaker 1:You know, in this plea deal they wanted to get these people so bad they even dismissed a murder charge against this dude.
Speaker 2:And the messed up thing about it is is the charges that he's going to do the time for on this Rico case that they just convicted him on in this plea deal. He has already been convicted of and already done his time on these charges.
Speaker 1:They used his guilty pleas against him from whenever he got caught and wrapped him up in this RICO case because he was associated with YSL.
Speaker 2:That just doesn't even make sense to me. I don't see how they can do that. The dude was already convicted and done his time for the two drug charges that he was convicted on, but Now they're charging him with the RICO status on just those two charges that he already did his time for. And now he's got to do what? How many more years?
Speaker 1:Well, he's been incarcerated for three and a half years. He's eligible for parole in nine months.
Speaker 2:Eligible, though that don't mean shit that don't guarantee so.
Speaker 1:He's been in there for three and a half years due seven. Wow, this case is crazy from the inside out. It's all about Benny Willis getting his guilty pleas. She's just so disgusting.
Speaker 2:You could see Quay's lawyer today on the stand when they was working this plea deal out. Man, he was literally in tears. He was so upset. But he did make the prosecution basically admit that there was no violent crimes whatsoever that he was tied to and they did drop the murder charge, like you said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they tried to slide in there in their factual basis on his guilty plea that oh, he had violence and done this violence and that violence. But bruce harvey came up and said we categorically deny any type of violence in the factual basis. And the judge let them do that because the only things that had tied him to this rico case were the two drug charges that he had in the past and already did his time for.
Speaker 2:I wonder what was going through Young Thug's mind with his buddies taking pleas and shit like that. He can't be too mad at him because they're not testifying against him. But I wonder if that makes the Rico case like is it going to be easier for them to convict Young Thug on because they're convicting his associates through the Rico shit? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think that Young Thug is going to beat this case with Brian Steele by his side.
Speaker 2:I hope he does, and I hope he gets out and puts better lyrics to his good beats though.
Speaker 1:He does have good beats, his lyrics just suck.
Speaker 2:Just kidding Young Thug. Anyway, we're going to move on from the YSL trial. We'll keep you updated tomorrow on the Daily.
Speaker 1:Right now we're going to take you to Halifax, canada.
Speaker 2:We've got a good Walmart story here.
Speaker 1:So on October 19th about 9.30 pm a Walmart employee calls 911-1-1 and report reported a sudden death at the walmart store. Now a female was found deceased in a large walk-in bakery oven. She was 19 years old and she had worked at at the Walmart with her mother for about two years. Well, they were working together that night and her mom couldn't find her for about an hour and went around looking for her and found her in the oven. I guess why she would look in the oven. I don't know.
Speaker 2:You know, when we started looking at this story I wasn't aware that they have big, large walk-in ovens. But if you think about it, like the Walmart here in Martinsville Indiana, they have a huge deli so they're probably baking all that bread and shit but you wouldn't think it'd be a walk-in oven. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:I've never heard of a walk-in oven either, and there are safety latches and buttons inside to get out, just like they are a freezer. You can't lock your own self in one of these bakery ovens, so the cause of death is being kept under wraps. An autopsy found external injuries and reports are saying that the oven was unlocked. And then there's also evidence pointing to her boyfriend and best friend. So that's what's going on there. I just thought it was an interesting story to bring to y'all.
Speaker 2:I wonder what they mean by the oven was unlocked. I mean it should stay unlocked If there's a safety. What they mean by the oven was unlocked? I mean it should stay unlocked If there's a safety. What they mean by the safety latch from the inside? If you've ever been to a walk-in cooler, they have that round button that you can push and it opens the door so people don't get locked in the coolers.
Speaker 1:Well, you know me, I was nosy and wanted to know what was on, what was on the inside of this, so I pulled it up and I was watching walmart employees explain this and what it looks like is like a little um, like a push, like like a push lever on the inside. That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2:I don't think she could have been locked in there so obviously she must have been unconscious when they put her in there, because she would have hit the freaking safety latch to get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:We're going to keep on that case too, because I want to dig into that, and as that moves forward and they get more evidence and hopefully somebody is charged with that, we're going to keep you informed on that. That's interesting as shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I have one more story I came across and there are no criminal charges in it yet, but I feel like it's really going to go somewhere and I feel like some elected officials are going to get in some type of trouble for this and some elected officials are going to get in some type of trouble for this. Now, what is one of our favorite places that we love to go?
Speaker 2:Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
Speaker 1:Yes, so down in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, I came across this story of this lady and her name is Micah Race and she's from Ohio and she bought this investment property for her family and they bought the property, closed on it.
Speaker 1:They immediately started remodeling it so they could Airbnb it out and this was supposed to be her family's legacy for her grandchildren to collect revenue from this long after they're gone.
Speaker 1:Well, the day that they put the last nail in the deck, the neighbor was watching them and she's come over and was talking to him and she said you guys don't know, do you? And Micah was like, what do you mean? And she said this house is going to be demolished for the Westside Connector by the city of Pigeon Forge for eminent domain. So the city of Pigeon Forge was going to take their property that they just completely redid. Well, she got a hold of city council because she wanted to find out what was going on and she talked to the mayor and he called her back and said that he felt horrible and that he watched her family work for the past seven months to completely remodel the home and that he felt really bad about what was happening. Well, he had already voted to condemn the property, and he knew that it was going to be tore down what a piece of shit he watched him for of shit.
Speaker 2:He watched him for seven months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he watched him for seven months do this. So initially they were like well, why was this house even put on the market to be sold? If the West Side Connector was going to come through here, you know it would have been flagged by the city of Pigeon Forge to not be sold. Well, they learned that there was this campground that the road was supposed to go through initially and the plans had changed to where the road now went around the campground, through her property the road now went around the campground through her property and shocker the person who is developing the campground is the mayor of Pigeon Forge, david Weir.
Speaker 1:He has a financial interest in the campground and he's changed the original voting plans that were going to run through the campground. That was undeveloped at this time because it would have cost them millions of dollars and his campground would have been ruined. And this woman is taking this all the way. She said I don't care, I'm taking it to the Department of Justice, the FBI. She said I'll go all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. And she's calling on him to resign right now. And she's posting it all over Facebook and everything. And they kind of did her dirty because Kind of.
Speaker 2:They did her real dirty and I don't blame her. You know I hate to see anything bad in Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge because I absolutely love it down there. That's one of our spots in the Smoky Mountains. But damn man, you talk about using your political position for personal gain. That's the epitome of it right there. That's criminal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the best kicker of all in this story, I couldn't believe it. They have torn down the house, condemned it, not paid them one penny, and the house is still in their name and they're still paying the mortgage on it after it's been torn down for months because they refused their offer. And we're like no, we don't want to sell, we don't want to be a part of this transaction. They're like oh well, the city has to have that, because eminent domain is where the people or the public government take your property for public use. So the mayor said that they needed to put the road through her property instead of his own.
Speaker 2:It's a good thing. She's a woman of God and you guys can look her up and look at her story, man, and kind of advocate for her because she's a preacher.
Speaker 1:I forgot all about that. Yes, she's a preacher. And they did this investment because Pigeon Forge has 15,000 lodging units in the city. Now the planning director of the town, david Taylor, said he is looking at a 15% increase in nightly units available, meaning they need 15% more nightly rentals available to accommodate all the people who are coming in to Pigeon Forge. They didn't have enough room for all these people so she was like she researched it all and that's why they bought this and plus her property that she had was zoned commercial. She could have put a boutique, a gas station, anything like that. In 10 years her property value would have been skyrocketing because of how the city's growing.
Speaker 2:That's a horrible, sad story, man.
Speaker 1:But she's taking it everywhere she needs to go and I just hope they win.
Speaker 2:I do too. Dolly Parton, if you're out there listening, man, you ought to get on this girl's side and have her back. I do. I love it down there. Man. If you do not believe in God, go down there and look at the smoky mountains off one of the big cabins and look at the sunrise and the sunset, man, and you will see.
Speaker 1:I know, and that's what makes it so weary because we wanted to buy property down there and Airbnb it out because it's so lovely and so nice down there.
Speaker 2:I'd be happy with a 10-foot by 10-foot piece of the mountain. I could put up a tent Shit, it's so beautiful down there.
Speaker 1:I could just stay down there forever.
Speaker 2:Me too. But hey, that's going to be it for the Daily today. Join us tomorrow, where we're going to update you more on the Richard Allen case, the YSL case and more interesting shit that we find. But until then, have a good day, good evening. Whatever, we'll be you next time.
