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The Daily Ep:3 RICHARD ALLEN GUILTY!!! && Young THUG is free!

Chop & Julie Season 1 Episode 13

Could the justice system have taken a wrong turn in the Richard Allen Delphi murders trial? We challenge the verdict and question how a CVS manager and National Guardsman, with a spotless past, could be implicated in such a chilling crime. With insights from Jennifer Coffin Daffer, we scrutinize the evidence and the search warrant's integrity. Has the real culprit escaped justice, and what does this mean for future cases and public willingness to testify? Tune in as we dissect these concerns that strike at the heart of legal processes and societal trust.

Switching gears, we capture the courtroom theater in the Young Slime Life (YSL) RICO case, spotlighting Young Thug's gripping legal battle and his unexpected liberation. Imagine the judge reading rap lyrics aloud as tensions soared over the prosecution's push for a heavy sentence. We also discuss Gunna's Alford plea and its controversial ripple across the rap scene. Explore Young Thug's defiance in court, refusing to yield to prosecution pressure, and ponder the implications of Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis's role. Finally, a listener reveals a newfound appreciation for Young Thug's artistry, charting a journey from skepticism to admiration for his Grammy-winning flair.

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Disclaimer: All defendants are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY in a court of law. All facts are alleged until a conviction!

Speaker 2:

Welcome everyone to podcast 69 south, where we discuss and discuss true crime, cold cases, current events and hot topics, along with our state of society today. This is your trigger warning. Our podcast content is produced for adult listeners, 18 years of age and older. We discuss situations that may be offensive and triggering to some listeners. Sit back, relax and enjoy. Welcome to 69 South Daily. I know we missed a couple days. We had a little technical difficulties. We was waiting on the verdict on the Richard Allen, the Delphi murders trial and it just came in and I have to say, man, I'm pretty, pretty unhappy about it. I know opinions are like assholes, like I've told you before, but I just don't think the dude's guilty.

Speaker 1:

You go from.

Speaker 2:

Welcome my co-host, beautiful Julie. Good evening, beautiful Julie.

Speaker 1:

Good evening. I just don't see how he goes from CVS manager to cold-hearted killer, and there's no other evidence to support that he would flip out like that.

Speaker 2:

I agree 100%. I mean you would literally have to believe that this dude is like the slickest fucking maniac that ever lived. I mean, I saw some shit on X. I'm going to give a shout out to Jennifer Coffin Daffer because she wrote this. This is from Richard Allen's perspective of that day. I woke up, I visited my mom. I gathered my gun and a box cutter because I was planning to rape and kill little girls.

Speaker 2:

I have been a CVS clerk for over a decade and have no criminal record. I served my country as a National Guardsman without issue. But on 2-13-17, I just got the urge to kidnap two little girls, take them to someone else's property and slit their throats after undressing them. Yes, I am 45 and have never looked at a child pornography or inquired about how to commit a murder or cover up such a murder before I know I am only 5'4-5'5", but I think I can likely control two teenagers if they see I have a gun. I was just lucky to stumble on two girls I could attack in public. I mean, that's the shit you have to believe this dude did that day. I just I cannot see in my mind where this dude goes from. I thought he was a manager, not even just a clerk at CVS, goes from. I thought he was a manager, not even just a clerk at CVS, but just to go from serving your country being a homeowner, having a wife and children, to I just I can't put the puzzle pieces together in my head.

Speaker 2:

I don't see the flip at all you know I get listen everybody, I get that. Um, I'm not on the side of oh, the court didn't have the evidence to prove it, so he should be proven not guilty. I'm not saying none of that shit at all. I'm saying my opinion looking at the dude's life and shit. The fucking dude didn't go from nothing to a million miles an hour on the wrong end of the fucking criminal spectrum. It just didn't fuck. It just doesn't happen like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I know there's those 1% cases of maybe a straight and narrow person losing his mind and killing somebody, killing somebody but two little girls, and say you're going to rape them, which there was no sexual abuse done to them. I just don't feel like justice has been served.

Speaker 2:

And man, god forgive me and, like I said on a previous episode, I kiss all y'all's asses if I'm wrong and it comes out that this dude did this because, god knows, I have a gang of little girls uh, daughters, granddaughters and I cannot stand a pedophile or anybody that would even look at a little girl wrong. So I'm on that side of that spectrum, on the other side of this shit, but I just don't see it.

Speaker 1:

You feel like the rock, you feel like the person who did this got away with it.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, I do, absolutely, I do, and I feel like they've been torturing this poor dude since he's been put in a maximum security prison, westfield. I mean, come on man.

Speaker 1:

He wasn't the only one that confessed to these murders?

Speaker 2:

He sure wasn't, and I'd like to get into that.

Speaker 1:

Elvis Fields.

Speaker 2:

Yep, oh, elvis Fields. Elvis is in our building today because I'm going to talk shit about him. I hadn't heard too much about this man, but what I have learned is very shocking and I was seriously hoping somebody was going to tell me this was some Internet bullshit. But I really don't think it is.

Speaker 1:

But I really don't think it is. It was in that Frank's motion that his defense that Richard Allen defense attorneys had filed. Explain to us what a Frank's motion is. Ok, so a Frank's motion or a Frank's hearing is a legal proceeding in a criminal case where you can traverse a search warrant. Traversing a warrant means that you challenge the truth of the information that is used to support it.

Speaker 2:

So basically they're protesting the probable cause affidavit that they issued to get the search warrant to search Richard Allen's home.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like a Frank's motion is a legal document given to the judge like a motion is a legal document given to the judge like a motion and it sets forth the defendant's request for a hearing and the specific challenges that they had with those type of search and seizure warrants.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so basically what you're saying is the sheriff bullshitted the judge to even get the search warrant to go through Richard Allen's house in the first place, and people only know that they only had Richard Allen on their radar because he volunteered himself to go down there and offer any information that he might have seen because he was around the area.

Speaker 1:

that day On the trail that day. And you know, I bet you, if anything else happens in that community and somebody says, oh, did you guys see anything? I bet you they ain't going to have one witness.

Speaker 2:

Hell. No, they're going to be like fuck. No, I wasn't there, I guarantee it.

Speaker 1:

And I just can't wrap my mind around him killing these girls. And then, hey, let me run to the police station and tell them I was there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Bridge guys, smidge guys what I say. But back to this Elvis character. Now there's a thing in the court where the reason the jury didn't hear about this Elvis character and this Elvis character, by the way, he confessed to his sister and knew some shit about the crime.

Speaker 1:

He's a mentally challenged dude, um, but there is she had to get a hold of her friend through the department of homeland security and told her what her brother, elvis, had told her, so that she could get in contact with somebody an FBI or a detective Like. She tried to go tell the police this, but they weren't listening to her.

Speaker 2:

Right, and the reason that the jury didn't hear it is because some kind of emotion that wouldn't let the defense offer up an alternative theory of the crime which is bullshit.

Speaker 1:

They also had the Odinist theory of the crime that they couldn't talk about.

Speaker 2:

Which I believe was bullshit too in my opinion.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I think what happened to the girls is they were talking to somebody on the Snapchat, on the phone of some sort, and they went there to meet or hang out and it just went real bad for them.

Speaker 2:

I just cannot wrap my mind around this man. It just I'm pissed off about it really.

Speaker 1:

I feel bad for Abby and Libby's families because, you know, just because these jurors convicted him doesn't? If he didn't do it, he didn't do it.

Speaker 2:

No, it don't mean shit, and that's another thing I wanted to say is what pisses me off is you know you go on the Internet and you can look long enough You're going to see whatever in the fuck that you want to see on there. There's been a lot of people jump on the innocent bandwagon, which I've always been on it. Man, I've never thought this dude was guilty of it. God forgive me if I'm wrong. If I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times. But you know the jury come back guilty. So everybody's like, oh, thank God, you know, thank God, it's it's over with. He must've done it.

Speaker 2:

These 12 people found him guilty. Well, these 12 people were under a lot of fucking pressure, man. These 12 people were part of that community out there and this case has been haunting this state and that community for years now. And I understand the pressure and shit that they was under man. But just, you know everybody to cheer for this dude being tortured and shit. I just don't get it. I don't get it. It's like they found him guilty. He must be guilty, bullshit, man.

Speaker 1:

I know. But God forgive the jurors because in their mind they just wanted to do the right thing and I bet you they couldn't get over the confessions. I bet not I bet you in their hearts, in their minds, something you know that they seen or they heard. You know cause they're going in there and they're really wanting to do the right thing. They're In my mind, you know, if he's not the killer, they're not guilty, because they want to find the real person that done this.

Speaker 2:

And I get that 100 percent. If they were to find Richard Allen not guilty, then the case would have pretty much went dead, because the cops and the prosecutors were dead set on finding Richard Allen guilty, that they wouldn't have done a fucking thing to try and find the real killer. They would have been like we found him and y'all didn't convict him. So fuck it. That's how I feel about it. So they were definitely under a lot of pressure. I would love, if any of you jurors are out there, man, and you want to speak up to your point of view on this. Please get a hold of 69 South Podcast. We would love to hear your point of view on this shit.

Speaker 1:

And we'll keep your identity anonymous, if you'd like to. I think if I was a juror, I wouldn't want people to know my identity. I'm a private person, though, so I mean I wouldn't want people to know who I was.

Speaker 2:

It's a whole messed up situation, man. It really is, because you know them two baby girls deserve justice, one hundred percent, without a doubt. I just I don't think anybody got justice today.

Speaker 1:

Maybe the families are happy because there's closure, and I get that, but is there really you think in their heart they really think this guy did it, even with the evidence and him being doped up on Hal et al and not confessing until he was sent to this maximum security prison and then forced to take Hallett off for months, and then these confessions start coming out? I mean, do you really believe in their heart that they're not doubting all of it?

Speaker 2:

I tell you what I would love for Abby and Libby's family to get a hold of us and tell us what they think. Man, because at the end of the day, that's who I'm really rooting for, and I don't think any of them got justice today. I really really don't. The only thing that I think they convicted him on was A the confessions, where I think was bullshit. Man, you torture a little bitty-ass dude like Richard Allen, five foot four, in a prison with monsters in there. You know what I mean. There's monsters in there, in that prison in Westfield. You can make a little dude do anything you want, say anything you want, confess to anything you want, and I'm not saying this is what happened.

Speaker 2:

Out of fear, absolutely Out of plum craziness. The dude was working at CVS. He went from that to eating paperwork and rubbing shit on himself. I mean you don't think they could have made him say some shit? You know what I mean. You want to eat, dude? You want to eat, dude? You want to quit getting tortured here? Just say this shit on the phone. I mean I just don't know, man. It's upsetting to me and I wish I knew the truth.

Speaker 1:

Remember when he went on the hunger strike? Do you think he went on the hunger strike? Because they were fucking with his food and putting all kinds of shit in his food, absolutely food, or don't miss food, and that Absolutely. I can see them doing the worst things possible to a man that is charged with those crimes.

Speaker 2:

If I was in prison and I didn't know what was going on in the outside world and I thought this dude raped and killed two little bitty girls that was my granddaughter's or daughter's age, I'd fucking do the meanest shit in the world to him. Absolutely I would. But when you're in Westfield, you don't know what the fuck's going on out here, man. You don't see what's really going on. All you know is what the guards and you know what the other criminals are telling you and his wife is telling him on the phone. Right.

Speaker 1:

Whenever he talks to her.

Speaker 2:

Please, anybody, any jurors, abby and Libby's family man, get a hold of us of this 69 South podcast man. Let us know what you think. Let us know what's going on in your world. Man, we are only rooting for justice for the girls, that's it.

Speaker 1:

You know what, even if in their hearts they believe that justice is served. I respect that. You know it's their family members that were lost and it sucks because I feel horrible even thinking that Richard Allen is innocent after they convicted him. But I feel horrible on so many sides. Because I feel horrible? Because I feel like Abby and Libby didn't get justice and the real person who did this is still out there. And then I feel horrible for even saying what I think on our podcast because I don't want to hurt the family's feelings.

Speaker 2:

Our viewers wanted to hear our honesty. Baby, though, that's for real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know, I think that they would respect that.

Speaker 2:

Well they should. Anyway, man, we're going to follow this case tooth and nail man until it comes.

Speaker 1:

It's getting appealed instantly. It's going to. It has to.

Speaker 2:

I want to know the truth. I really do, and I'm just offering up my opinion and I, just like I said I said it before I'll say it again I don't think justice was served for these two baby girls today, but we're going to move on. We got some really, really cool shit updates about the YSL case. If you've been listening to us, it's the Young Slime Life Rico case. Young Thug is free.

Speaker 1:

We are down to two defendants left.

Speaker 2:

They let his ass out.

Speaker 1:

And let's talk about, oh thug, jeffrey Williams. Let's talk about his non-negotiated plea deal. Could you believe he got up there in front of the judge? Non-negotiated plea, when they are asking for 40, the prosecution's asking for 45 years and you and your lawyer are standing there asking for five years time served due, 15 on probation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but man they knew.

Speaker 1:

He sat there. He sat there for a minute.

Speaker 2:

They knew that judge seen it. And, by the way, I thought one of the really funny parts when the judge was reading the rap song or the text and was like, yeah, you in Beep, beep, beep beep. That was all over YouTube.

Speaker 1:

Even Hilton was like damn.

Speaker 2:

She said the N-word.

Speaker 1:

It was funny.

Speaker 2:

It was hilarious.

Speaker 1:

But anyway, man, Young Thug is out. Then we have Shannon Stilwell and Demonte Kendrick left.

Speaker 2:

And they're already. Either Young Thug is not as smart as he looks, or he's really tweeting some shit, or somebody's hacking his shit, because there's already some bullshit going on there.

Speaker 1:

Oh, saying that he was talking shit about Gunna.

Speaker 2:

About Gunna.

Speaker 1:

Gunna supposedly snitched and said that YSL was a gang in his Alford plea.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but Alford plea is an Alford plea, if y'all don't know what that is.

Speaker 1:

What is it?

Speaker 2:

It's basically saying you're guilty without being guilty. It's basically accepting the plea but not admitting guilt Like non-contested or something.

Speaker 1:

Right Now to accepting the plea but not admitting like non-contested or something. Right now. To us that wouldn't be snitching, but in the rap gangster, atlanta gangster world that's fucking snitching. Did you hear what else he had to do? Did you know he was banned from the atlanta area for a decade? But he can. He has to come back four times a year and he has to make anti-violence presentations and he has to do 100 hours of community service annually while he's on probation and if he messes up he's got 20 years of prison hanging over his head.

Speaker 2:

I wonder if that was Fannie Fatass Willis backwards dress, ass wearing idea.

Speaker 1:

Can you believe she won reelection?

Speaker 2:

in Fulton.

Speaker 1:

County with like 70% of the vote.

Speaker 2:

I wonder if Young Thug like donated to her campaign or something Before she locked him up?

Speaker 1:

I doubt it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because he was looking at life man and he got out of jail Shit.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, I mean, she wasn't trying to negotiate with them at all. That's why they went up there and did a non-negotiated plea. Brian Steele was like you just offered him five years' time served and to go home on probation if he testified to these facts that YSO was a gang he's like no, we're not doing it. He said the only thing we're copping to is the guns and the drugs you found in his house. Yeah, he basically said, and gang activity.

Speaker 2:

Look man, you all just offered him to go home or if he don't snitch, do 40. Fuck that. He was available for just probation five minutes ago, but now he ain't going to be a snitch. Now you want him to do 40 years. The judge seen right through that shit and give her props for that. Amen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I didn't know if he was going to get up and do it because she was like, are you ready? And he sat there like for a minute like scared to death, and then he was like, fuck it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And got up and did it. I, I, I don't know. I kind of got respect for young thug, even though I don't really know who he is and, like I said before, his lyrics suck, but his beats are cool. I kind of like his persona on there, though. Man, he seemed like a cool ass dude really. I mean I tried to listen to a couple of them he's a grammy award winning artist.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know that. I seen him on a video shooting basketball in a dress on one. I tried to listen to a couple of them. He's a Grammy award-winning artist. I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2:

I seen him on a video shooting basketball in a dress on one of his videos. It was weird. It was like a fucking Scottish.

Speaker 1:

Was it a dress or like a kilt?

Speaker 2:

It was probably like a kilt. You know what I mean, and I'm Irish and I get that, but I wouldn't wear a fucking kilt on. You know what I'm saying on. Anyway, I hope young thug man, I hope he you know does his life betters himself, maybe stays away from all the dope slinging and you know allegedly bullshit that he was involved in.

Speaker 1:

So we do have some updates on the Karen Reed shit man which the Norfolk District Attorney, michael Morrissey to turn over any text or emails he sent about the case from his personal devices, citing an email he sent from a personal account to court officials about a blogger who believes Reed has been framed for murder. So he sent a personal email, or he sent an email, even though it was a work email, from his personal device and if they do that, that means that it's grounds to be able to get text emails data like Proctor. Remember how his text came to light Because he used a personal cell phone and the FBI had got a warrant for that information.

Speaker 2:

The balloon knot text yeah, I remember those.

Speaker 1:

So in a motion filed last week in Norfolk Superior Court, Reads Lawyers said they are seeking all communications that Morrissey made from his personal email or cell phone about the case, including, but not limited to, any communication with witnesses and court staff, as they should, corroborated by documentary evidence demonstrates that DA Morrissey used his personal email address to communicate with Staunton District Court personnel and judges is what the filing said. Now, such communication is contrary to the basic values of fairness governing litigation. Under our adversary system. The lawyers wrote. Under our adversary system, the lawyers wrote and then Morrissey's spokesperson declined to comment since the case is pending. So her lawyers are filing all kinds of motions and they got that new prosecutor and they're due to go to retrial on January 25th, I believe.

Speaker 2:

Sweet. Nothing sweeter than a read retrial. I like that shit.

Speaker 1:

I think she's going to. I think they're going to get her not guilty on this next one.

Speaker 2:

You know, as much as I don't think Richard Allen's guilty just because of the circumstances, I almost know for a fact in my heart that Karen Reed's innocent.

Speaker 1:

We have. I don't know why we have such contrary opinions on I know three cases off the top that it's the Murdahl murders, the Karen Reed saga and the Richard Allen Delphi murders. It's like what we feel and how we see it is completely different from everybody else.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of like politics, and that's all I'm going to say. I can't believe people see the shit that we see, like don't see what we see in the politics aspect of this country today. But I'm not going to speak on that. Y'all probably know where I stand.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to see some of those prosecutors' DMs and emails and text messages. I just feel like prosecutors has lost all ethics these days. A lot of them.

Speaker 2:

A lot of them. I'm sure there's plenty of good ones still out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's just sad for people in the criminal justice system.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of the Murdaw trial, we're going to get into that case because we really got some mad opinions about that shit and we would love to share our thoughts with you and we're going to keep up on this daily shit. Folks, we're sorry we missed a couple of days. Like I said, it was some technical difficulties.

Speaker 1:

Hell, and even if we missed a couple of days, we'll be back.

Speaker 2:

We may have overslept for a couple of days. Like you know we do run a construction business and shit.

Speaker 1:

Like three businesses.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but until then we hope you have a good day, a good night evening, whatever, we'll see you next time.

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